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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.secondnegative.com/archives/2005/04/06/university-site-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3598</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News...I submitted Seattle University on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cssbeauty.com/archives/2005/April/seattle_university/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CSS Beauty&lt;/a&gt; a few days ago, and was featured today.  Very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News&#8230;I submitted Seattle University on <a href="http://www.cssbeauty.com/archives/2005/April/seattle_university/" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">CSS Beauty</a> a few days ago, and was featured today.  Very cool.</p>
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		<title>By: trench</title>
		<link>http://www.secondnegative.com/archives/2005/04/06/university-site-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3584</link>
		<dc:creator>trench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know but here on Guam, most of the locally owned sites look ancient.   Take www.guam.net for instance! Pure madness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know but here on Guam, most of the locally owned sites look ancient.   Take <a href="http://www.guam.net" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">http://www.guam.net</a> for instance! Pure madness!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.secondnegative.com/archives/2005/04/06/university-site-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3582</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Adam&lt;/strong&gt;: I agree that these sites have more of an impact than ever.  When I graduated high school in ’95, we didn’t have any badly designed sites to visit, so we had to find other things not to like.  Schools need to realize that their official sites are often THE face of the institution for the current generation of students.

&lt;strong&gt;Ian&lt;/strong&gt;: I see what you mean about the Samford site design.  That strange green background makes the site difficult to look at.  Why would they create a school site without the school colors?  Feedback is definitely the key to developing something appropriate for the user base.

It just seems that the people in charge of these sites have a fundamental misunderstanding of the web and the effect official sites have on perception.  Thanks for the comments, and the kind words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Adam</strong>: I agree that these sites have more of an impact than ever.  When I graduated high school in ’95, we didn’t have any badly designed sites to visit, so we had to find other things not to like.  Schools need to realize that their official sites are often THE face of the institution for the current generation of students.</p>
<p><strong>Ian</strong>: I see what you mean about the Samford site design.  That strange green background makes the site difficult to look at.  Why would they create a school site without the school colors?  Feedback is definitely the key to developing something appropriate for the user base.</p>
<p>It just seems that the people in charge of these sites have a fundamental misunderstanding of the web and the effect official sites have on perception.  Thanks for the comments, and the kind words.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.secondnegative.com/archives/2005/04/06/university-site-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3581</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

I&#039;ve been meaning to make a post like this myself. I attend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.samford.edu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Samford Unviersity&lt;/a&gt; and for the past 2 years they&#039;ve had a relatively good looking site--save some very poor uses of javascript for menus. Over the past 3 months, however they&#039;ve moved to what they call a very &#039;simplistic&#039; design that is supposed to be more user friendy and to help w/ our Branding campaign.

What I find interesting is that the current students HATE it...its ugly, it doesn&#039;t represent our school colors (blue and red) and it looks like someone in a first semester Web Design class made it in Hot Dog Pro in about 30 minutes...I mean, heck...put me on payroll and I&#039;ll build something more effective that this piece of junk! They didn&#039;t do any dry runs or get any student opinion before implementing the new design which to me says tons about how they value our opinion. 

You&#039;d think they would consider the opinion of current students since its people in our age bracket and with similar tastes to our (moreso than not) that are coming to the site as perspective students...its aggrivating...and I&#039;m afraid a lost cause at this point. Great Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to make a post like this myself. I attend <a href="http://www.samford.edu" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">Samford Unviersity</a> and for the past 2 years they&#8217;ve had a relatively good looking site&#8211;save some very poor uses of javascript for menus. Over the past 3 months, however they&#8217;ve moved to what they call a very &#8217;simplistic&#8217; design that is supposed to be more user friendy and to help w/ our Branding campaign.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that the current students HATE it&#8230;its ugly, it doesn&#8217;t represent our school colors (blue and red) and it looks like someone in a first semester Web Design class made it in Hot Dog Pro in about 30 minutes&#8230;I mean, heck&#8230;put me on payroll and I&#8217;ll build something more effective that this piece of junk! They didn&#8217;t do any dry runs or get any student opinion before implementing the new design which to me says tons about how they value our opinion. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think they would consider the opinion of current students since its people in our age bracket and with similar tastes to our (moreso than not) that are coming to the site as perspective students&#8230;its aggrivating&#8230;and I&#8217;m afraid a lost cause at this point. Great Post.</p>
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		<title>By: AdamStac</title>
		<link>http://www.secondnegative.com/archives/2005/04/06/university-site-design/comment-page-1/#comment-3580</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamStac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Greg, good eyes man!

Big schools like that need to pay attention to their web visitors experience more than ever these days. If I were researching which school I wanted to attend (which I&#039;m not), I would take into consideration the look, feel and experience I had at their site. If a site is intuitive and well built, it makes for easier perusing, and that means they are in your environment that much longer to get &quot;sold&quot; the educational dream that they wish to pursue.

In today&#039;s world the website that represents an organization is more important than ever before. The world of today lives in a &quot;connected state&quot;. The Internet powers more of our lives than ever before.

Sites that harness that power to the fullest, get &quot;the deal&quot; and those who don&#039;t...don&#039;t.

Nice write up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Greg, good eyes man!</p>
<p>Big schools like that need to pay attention to their web visitors experience more than ever these days. If I were researching which school I wanted to attend (which I&#8217;m not), I would take into consideration the look, feel and experience I had at their site. If a site is intuitive and well built, it makes for easier perusing, and that means they are in your environment that much longer to get &#8220;sold&#8221; the educational dream that they wish to pursue.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s world the website that represents an organization is more important than ever before. The world of today lives in a &#8220;connected state&#8221;. The Internet powers more of our lives than ever before.</p>
<p>Sites that harness that power to the fullest, get &#8220;the deal&#8221; and those who don&#8217;t&#8230;don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Nice write up!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Clay&lt;/strong&gt;: The main Harvard site doesn&#039;t look too awful, but I agree that the tan color is terrible.  The whole color scheme doesn&#039;t really work.

The TAMU site is really what made me start thinking about this post topic.  It just doesn&#039;t make sense.  Texas A&amp;M has one of the five largest student bodies in the nation, and is consistently ranked among the top fifteen public schools.  Why they can&#039;t put together a decent looking official site is a mystery to me.  They need to get in touch with Seattle University.

&lt;strong&gt;kartooner&lt;/strong&gt;: Yeah, the Monroe site has some problems.  Can&#039;t you help?  Haha.  I suppose it&#039;s just not a priority to hire a designer to manage the site.  Typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Clay</strong>: The main Harvard site doesn&#8217;t look too awful, but I agree that the tan color is terrible.  The whole color scheme doesn&#8217;t really work.</p>
<p>The TAMU site is really what made me start thinking about this post topic.  It just doesn&#8217;t make sense.  Texas A&amp;M has one of the five largest student bodies in the nation, and is consistently ranked among the top fifteen public schools.  Why they can&#8217;t put together a decent looking official site is a mystery to me.  They need to get in touch with Seattle University.</p>
<p><strong>kartooner</strong>: Yeah, the Monroe site has some problems.  Can&#8217;t you help?  Haha.  I suppose it&#8217;s just not a priority to hire a designer to manage the site.  Typical.</p>
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		<title>By: kartooner</title>
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		<dc:creator>kartooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s based entirely on having a designer that pays attention to the details and gets the usability right. 

One of the worst offenders of this is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monroecc.edu&quot; title=&quot;Monroe Community College&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Monroe Community College&lt;/a&gt;, a community college I&#039;m currently attending. The site just sucks, bad, and the usability is slim to none. You have to dig deep for any pertinent or useful information and that to me is a huge no-no when it comes to an University or college web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s based entirely on having a designer that pays attention to the details and gets the usability right. </p>
<p>One of the worst offenders of this is <a href="http://www.monroecc.edu" title="Monroe Community College" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">Monroe Community College</a>, a community college I&#8217;m currently attending. The site just sucks, bad, and the usability is slim to none. You have to dig deep for any pertinent or useful information and that to me is a huge no-no when it comes to an University or college web site.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right in pointing that out.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsph.harvard.edu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HSPH&lt;/a&gt; is getting ready to do a redesign, and for the life of me, I don&#039;t know why they haven&#039;t solicited my opinion!  ;)

I&#039;m working with my department to put something attractive together.  We&#039;ll see how that turns out, since I&#039;m no designer, either.  The TAMU site looks like a pop-up advertisement.  

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.harvard.edu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;main Harvard site&lt;/a&gt; has this awful tan color on it.  Colors are key to attractiveness, and I don&#039;t think that the tan does it -- or at least not for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right in pointing that out.  <a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">HSPH</a> is getting ready to do a redesign, and for the life of me, I don&#8217;t know why they haven&#8217;t solicited my opinion!  ;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working with my department to put something attractive together.  We&#8217;ll see how that turns out, since I&#8217;m no designer, either.  The TAMU site looks like a pop-up advertisement.  </p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.harvard.edu" rel="nofollow" class="extlink">main Harvard site</a> has this awful tan color on it.  Colors are key to attractiveness, and I don&#8217;t think that the tan does it &#8212; or at least not for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>totally yo, great argument.  i just don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>totally yo, great argument.  i just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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